I haven't bought these but I did try them on. I think if you are a Lineman this is about as good as a pair of cleats can get for in the trenches. I wish the toe wasn't the rubber that it is, but I understand why they built them like they have. I'd buy them if I was actually looking for cleats like this. I am a former All State lineman from a 5A school and was very impressed with the build and comfort.