Really poorly designed shorts. The crotch in these shorts hangs about 5 inches below my actual crotch. That creates both a bad look and even worse function with these shorts. I suppose some might like that look if you're looking for that gang kid from the hood look but I really just wanted properly tailored shorts for actually working out. I got the Medium size and the length from the top of the waist band to the bottom of the crotch is around 18 inches. These are going back.